Listening to Your Gut with Kellyann Schaefer

Rebecca:

You're going to enjoy today's episode. Kelly is such a fun, bubbly
personality, and I certainly like being in her presence. So what I love, is
Kelly has asked so many hard questions while she's been a client of mine,
learning about her design and how to reach to her gut and how to really get
out of this conditioning that says that we have to work harder, we have to
work longer hours, we have to really, if we're not doing it right, we must
not be working hard enough. We must not be working long enough, we're doing
it wrong, all of those things. And Kelly has really asked all the questions
about how can she be more in touch as a sacral generator with her gut? How
can she learn to respond better rather than initiating to life? And it's
been a really fun journey.

Rebecca:

So Kelly's going to talk about some of that stuff today, which I think is
super important for are those of you, especially with either a sacral or a
splanchnic type of authority, decision-making authority in your human
design, it's really fun to listen to Kelly talk about where she's come from
and what she's working on now, and how human design has really helped her
on her journey. So, let's get started on today's episode.

Rebecca:

Welcome to Beautifully Bloomed, the podcast where we explore how to break
you out of the box of rules and beliefs that are holding you back from the
life you are meant to live. I'm your host, Rebecca Tervo. Join me as I
share mindset tools, coaching conversations, and human design, to help you
uncover your unique gifts and create the life, relationships, and business
you desire.

Rebecca:

Kellyann Schaefer is a certified life coach, wife, mother of four, and
human to 11 year old epileptic cat, Bruce. She's a CEO and creator of The
Concierge Academy and author of The Concierge Life, and she helps other
mission driven women build concierge businesses. Welcome Kelly, thank you
so much for joining me today.

Kellyann:

Hi, I'm so glad to be here.

Rebecca:

Yeah, so we have an interesting background history and I don't even
remember the year that it was that we met, maybe you do. Do you remember
the year?

Kellyann:

I have no idea. It honestly could have gone back as far as probably 2012,
honestly.

Rebecca:

Oh really, 2012?

Kellyann:

Yeah, that's when I was in that group.

Rebecca:

A long time ago.

Kellyann:

Yes, it's a long time ago.

Rebecca:

But you were in there for several years, so it's possible because I was in
there for one year. So yeah, we were in a business group together and I
knew of you because I used to watch... I remember watching videos where you
were unboxing your, oh, I forget the name of that company. You used to
unbox your shoes and-

Kellyann:

Oh yeah, my Stitch Fix.

Rebecca:

Stitch Fix, that was it. I loved watching unboxing videos.

Kellyann:

Yes, it's so fun.

Rebecca:

When you would unbox your Stitch fix, I think that's what I remember about
you. I was like, "Oh that's-" and you were so fun. You had such a bubbly
personality, and it's so fascinating because then I saw you in the life
coach school group. I'm like, "What is Kellyann doing in the life coach
school group?" It was just an odd, right? Like coming so-

Kellyann:

Yeah, and I immediately recognized your name, too. I was like, "I know her.
I know her from somewhere."

Rebecca:

Yes, and then I reached out to you. I'm like, "We were in Boldheart. We
were in Boldheart together. So that was super fun, that was super fun. And
then what happened is you came for human design reading. So I'm curious,
when did your human design journey start? Because you've told me, or how
did it start? Because it wasn't with me. Like what happened?

Kellyann:

Honestly, my human design journey started probably six or seven years ago.
It was someone else who had been in this great big group program that we
were in together. She was a hand analysis and a human design expert and I
have just always been curious. I'm always fascinated by the different
personality profiles and so forth. And so she had done this human design
chart for me and I walked away with some nuggets that I wrote down, and I
literally still, to this day, have those pages in my little notebook that I
would still go back to every once in a while when I felt like I was
struggling the most in life. I would go back and I'm like, "What did she
say about me?" So that was kind of it, and then I never did anything with
it.

Kellyann:

And then someone else offered to do a profile for me and I read it and I
was like, "This is fascinating," and didn't do anything with it. And then a
third person came along and actually gifted me this entire reading, and I
read through all of it and I'm like, "It's so fascinating." And I didn't do
anything with it. And then finally, it was like my intuition was guiding me
and pushing me towards it. I was going through, I'll never forget. I was
literally on my couch and I was like, "Something is off. Something needs to
shift. I don't know what I'm doing, where I'm going, what I'm meant to be
doing." And I was like, "I just don't know what to do right now." And I
very clearly heard, human design, come through and I was like, "Well,
that's weird." And I started down this path, again, of just Googling it and
trying to figure it out and trying to understand it.

Kellyann:

And again, I took my foot off the gas again. Several months later, I heard
it again and I was like, "Crap." And I went and I literally had pulled it
out of my old readings that others had given me. I had pulled them out and
I had them on my desk and I just so happened to be in the LCS Facebook
group with you, and somebody mentioned human design and mentioned your
name. And I literally had the folder on my desk and I was like, "Okay, I'm
hearing you. I'm going to do this."

Rebecca:

That is so fascinating.

Kellyann:

And then I was like, "How are you working with people? Sign me up, send me
the link. Whatever it is, just send me the link."

Rebecca:

Yeah. So actually, you do listen. It's interesting because human design
teaches us about listening and trusting ourselves. So it sounds, to me,
like you were already on the path of listening. You're getting the
messages, but you just needed some kind of guidance through, I mean, the
strange world of human design. There's so many layers.

Kellyann:

And sometimes I feel like I have a knowingness and it's almost like you
just want to double check. Send me another sign, send me something over
here so I can... Can I know that I'm on the right path?

Rebecca:

Yes, and just so everyone knows, Kelly's a 4/6 sacral generator. And so, or
peer, some people say peer generator. So you are here to respond, and
you're getting the signs to respond to and you're then you're trusting. I
love that you're allowing yourself to trust. These are the signs and my gut
says yes, so I think I'll go trust that instead of... Because what we teach
about human design is our gut says one thing and then our head comes in and
it's like, blah, blah, blah. But so, blah blah, should blah, blah, blah.

Kellyann:

Exactly, exactly. What I've learned, too, is the gut often speaks in very
little words. It doesn't have a full on conversation like the brain does.
The gut is just like, go here, turn left, pick up the book, buy the course,
say yes. It's fascinating.

Rebecca:

Yes. Oh, that's so good to know. I mean, because some people are really so
out of touch with their body. I mean, many of us, we're in our heads so
much. Thinking, and we're just so logical-based and I know you have a lot
of logic too, right?

Kellyann:

I so do.

Rebecca:

Yes. And it can be such a detriment to helping us get what we want in life
by listening to our head and just trying to figure it all out. I find
myself saying the words, figure it out, and I'm like, "Wait, am I really
supposed to figure it out?" I find myself questioning myself all the time.
Are you supposed to figure it out or are you supposed to just listen to
what's coming in, and see what's coming in and respond? So, I love that.

Kellyann:

And I'll say, too, my life story is one of, I've had a lot of struggles in
my life, so figuring things out was very normal and natural, and that's how
you quote unquote, survive. That's how you got through life. And so, I
think just there's a point in time where you just realize that's not the
easiest path anymore, and that's what I think human design is. And still to
this day, opening up for me, because I still have a lot of quote unquote,
old habits, of figuring things out and wanting to initiate because I
love... I'm an action taker, so I love initiating, which is kind of hard.
That's probably the hardest thing. Knowing my human design and also being
wired to take action, and that's where I'm growing now.

Rebecca:

Yeah, there's a balance between... Well, there is action to be taken, but
when is the right time to take the action? That's what your human design
chart shows you.

Kellyann:

Yes.

Rebecca:

Like how to take action, when and how.

Kellyann:

Yeah, can you just give me the checklist and tell me, on Tuesday at
approximately 11:00 AM, you should do X.

Rebecca:

Wouldn't that be amazing?

Kellyann:

That would be so amazing.

Rebecca:

I know. So, we all like to have this really laid out plan, and a lot of us
love plans. And what I love about human design is it's like, "Okay, but
here's the way that your plans would work. Here's the way life would work
best if you plan this way rather than what we all think we should do,"
which we're taught a lot of formulas and structures and all of that. And
then we try to go do them and then they don't work for us, and then we get
frustrated.

Kellyann:

1 million, bazillion percent.

Rebecca:

Which is what you have said before. You're like, "Well, people say I should
do it because they're a business coach and I should do this thing, which is
great because that might work for, but maybe right now is not the right
time." But then you push and try to do it anyways, and that's where we get-

Kellyann:

That's how you end up in burnout, too. You end up in burnout because you're
doing a lot of the things that aren't quite aligned for you right now in
this moment. They might be aligned for you later, you might never be
aligned to it. So me learning how to... It's almost like learning how to
stand up for yourself to the gurus sometimes.

Kellyann:

And I try to even empower the members of my program. I tell them all the
time, "Look, here's what I know works, here's what I suggest, but you also
have to feel into it. What feels right for you? What does your body say?
What does your heart say? If your heart was a beacon and it was like beep
beep, yes or no, what would it tell you in this moment?" And so, I try to
empower the members in my program because they're heart-centered. They just
believe in taking care of people. The concierge industry is all about
helping and taking care of people, literally taking care of people.
Seniors, aging adults, cleaning out closets, all the things. So, it's
really important for them to also know that there's value in their own
knowingness, despite hiring me to be their guru/coach, which I think is a
unique perspective that I bring to my coaching.

Rebecca:

Yes, that's amazing to have coaches who, okay. I can teach you some
systems. However, I also want to keep reminding you that some of this is
for you and some isn't, and maybe it's the right timing, maybe it's not.
This is opening up. I love using the term, it's opening up possibility.
This is helping you see other possibilities and no, we're not going to just
go boom, boom, boom, step by step by step. We need some of you in there.

Kellyann:

Exactly. And even if it is a step by step... So I teach some really,
clearly defined step by step. You do this, this, this, and that, and that's
pretty much all you need to do to make your business successful. And at the
same time, but there are nuances and being you within each of those steps.

Rebecca:

Exactly.

Kellyann:

That's where the melding comes.

Rebecca:

Exactly, and allowing them to feel into when their energy is available for
the stuff. That has been a huge for me, the knowingness of, do I have the
energy for this specific thing today? I mean, do I have the energy to put
together this group that my mind says, I think you should, or somebody else
said you should. And I'm like, okay, I need to be energetically available.
And if I'm not, that's all the stuff. If we're not, we just don't get the
results. Because here's the another thing our higher-self knows. I really
feel like our higher-self conspires to nurture us while we're trying to
push and make things happen, and push and push. And our higher-self is
like, "Nope, you know what? You're just not going to get that right now
because you can't do it."

Kellyann:

I know. And we're so programmed and I still do this, so I am still kind of
recovering from this methodology. But when things don't work, it's like I
push harder. Because I think we've been taught, it's like, well, if it's
not working, you're not doing it enough. You're not working it, you're not
working hard enough, you're not putting in enough hours. You're not... And
so, that served me for a long time in my life. And at the same time, if I
were to go back and look at the first 40 plus years of my life, there was
definitely a pushing, and I think there was always a knowing that was
coupled with it as well that I just didn't recognize then, that I can
consciously recognize now.

Rebecca:

Yeah, that pushing. Like we're so conditioned to go out, make it happen,
have the big goal. You're not believing. Oh, that's the thing I think you
missed when you were talking. Are you believing hard enough? You're not
believing hard enough. You're not believing you can do it. And I'm like,
"But that's not always the answer." You can believe and believe and
believe, but maybe it's just not aligned right now. You know what I mean?
You could believe, but is that going to get it? I don't know. Sometimes
even that creates, for me, a pushing energy, or I hear my clients say that.

Kellyann:

Yeah, or even like, "You need to visualize." I'm like, "How many times a
day do you want me to visualize?" I'm like, "I'm visualizing all day,
walking around omen myself here and taking action." So, human design is
really helping me to learn how to ground back into myself. Not overwork,
not over push, allow myself to take a 20-minute break in the middle of the
day. To go for a walk in nature, which always supports me at the highest
possible level. Yeah, just allowing. Allowing yourself to be nurtured in
the ways that you like to be nurtured, because everybody's nurture is not
the same either.

Rebecca:

Exactly, like I love to color and you love to build puzzles.

Kellyann:

Yes. I love doing puzzles, especially with my son.

Rebecca:

Yes. And so, there's just different ways that we have to meet our energy
needs. And I think that's one of the things, too, which I've been focusing
on later in the group that I've been running that you're part of. It's
like, well, are we be getting our energy needs met in the different layers
of our human design chart? Because there are different ways to look at your
type, your authority, your profile, all these things. They all have needs
and if you're not meeting those needs, you're going to be stuck. You're
going to feel frustrated. As a generator type, you're going to feel
frustrated.

Kellyann:

What's also been really showing up for me, especially as of the recording
of this, we are in pandemic-ey times still. What are we on, like 19 months
now? I don't even know.

Rebecca:

It feels like 10 years, truthfully.

Kellyann:

It feels like 10 years. And I'm a 4/6, so I miss humans, I miss meeting
people. And being online and doing all the Zoom meetings is good enough,
it's like a bandaid, but I miss human interaction. I miss hugging people,
being at dance clubs or coffee shops. And not understanding why it has
impacted me, and I just kind of, I try not to allow it to impact me because
there's not a whole lot I can do about it right now. But also understanding
that I'm not weird for feeling this way, I'm not weird for thinking this
way.

Kellyann:

This is how I'm wired, which is also fascinating when I think about how I
built my local business. I've made over a million dollars helping people,
literally over a million dollars in my service business. Running errands,
cleaning out closets, taking care of aging adults. This is what I did and
the primary way that I grew it was through, what? Interacting, networking
with people, building referral partnerships, and it's all in my human
design. Which is why I think it's so important for my students to even
understand it, too, so that they know where they naturally shine.

Rebecca:

Exactly. That's like some of the programs I've been in have been like, do
Facebook ads. I'm like, okay. And I tried that, I did Facebook ads for a
year. But I also have a line for a profile. And I'm like, isn't that
fascinating that what really works, is people refer people to me, or it's
people I already know in my circles and then they tell other people. That
is just a natural line four thing. And I love what you said about, because
I have had the same thing. I felt so housebound and I know I've heard other
people on the other side of the fence going, "This has been amazing. I just
get to stay home. Nobody expects anything of me." And so, all of us are
different.

Kellyann:

I know. I have a really good friend who's like that. She's like, "I am so
happy I don't leave the house." And I'm like, "I'm going fricking nuts."

Rebecca:

Exactly. And so, what's great about that is we can see through our human
design, we're not nuts. This is how we're wired, and it just gives us
permission. Like you've said, I think you said this at the beginning, but
to be that. It's okay to have these feelings and to even understand why we
have the feelings that we have, and somebody else has different feelings.
That's great. We're not all supposed to be the same.

Rebecca:

So, you talked a little bit about your concierge business, but what are you
doing right now with people in your business? Are you still doing the
concierge stuff?

Kellyann:

Yes. So I have a group program that we open the doors twice a year for.
Other than that, I have a YouTube channel. People find out a little lot of
information on the YouTube channel. Because when I started my business,
there wasn't a whole lot of information out there, and the information that
was out there was really not forthcoming with true information. It was a
bunch of copy/paste, generic crap that really did not help me very much.
And then what happened was I thought, "Oh, I'm broken. I must really be a
crap business owner. I'm just not smart enough." And it wasn't because of
that, it was just because the information out there was kind of dull and
bland. And so, I have a YouTube channel, I have my book, The Concierge
Life, which really maps out everything that you need to do to build a
business like this successfully. And then we have an event coming up in
October for three days, where we come together for three days and we
design, monetize, and learn how to scale your business in three days.

Rebecca:

That sounds amazing.

Kellyann:

Yeah, it's super fun.

Rebecca:

Yes, I want to come to the event. I'm not even a concierge.

Kellyann:

Yes. We had a couple people last year who were not concierge, who just
wanted to tap into some energy.

Rebecca:

Yeah, that's so fun. Well, thank you, Kelly, so much for sharing. And under
the show notes, I'll put the links to your site and your, I think you're
selling your seats right now to your event, right?

Kellyann:

Yeah, yeah we are.

Rebecca:

So I'll put the link to the event. Thank you so much, this has been super
fun.

Kellyann:

All right, thank you.

Rebecca:

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